Eyeballs S04: in conversation with the children from the series

Photo credit: Mark de Blok

You can’t really call them children anymore, Lieke, Chris and Mees from Oogappels. They’ve grown in and of a way with the series – the first season was filmed in 2018 (see photos below) – from teenagers to young adults. How is it for Susan Radder (23), Thor Braun (22) and Maas Bronkhuyzen (20)? To what extent are they their characters, what did they learn about themselves, about each other and from each other, and how do they see the future of Eyeballs?

Could you imagine that five years after the first season you are still with it Eyeballs wanted to play?

Susan Radder (Lieke): No man! Thor Braun (Chris): Not at all. I auditioned for a supporting role on a ten-episode show. There was almost no information about what exactly was expected of me. I remember coming to the set of the first episode and discussing with Will (Koopman, the director, ed.) what my role would entail. The character Chris really comes from clothes and make-up. The alternative nail polish, for example, just experimented on the first day. But Chris is not that far from me. Actually, we have developed together through the seasons.

Maas, you were the youngest of the three, 16 when you started. Of the boys, you were (and are) the most troubled. Did you also enter the set unknowingly?

Maas Bronkhuyzen (Mees): Actually, yes. In the first season it started quite innocently, I was a skater and smoked a joint every now and then. But there was so much recognition for that character that there was always a little extra. Or is it happening again? Undoubtedly. Assuming my character returns this season.

Maas Bronkhuyzen as Mees (photo credit: Wessel de Groot)

You can say it: last season he passed his HAVO exam, he is stoned almost all days, and the cliffhanger revolved around you: when your mother sends you to your father in Sweden, you walk away from the uncle’s car that brings you. How was it to continue with Mees!

I wonder that too sometimes. As a character, Mees fits well with the times we live in. There are so many looking for young people. But beyond that quest, Mees has a difficult character that he himself doesn’t know how to handle. In puberty you can still get away with his behavior, but he remains immature and that is partly his own fault. Although I don’t think he was guided properly. This may be because when his parents separated, he became the man in the family. Fabie, his mother, does not take very good care of him.

Or I’m saying it wrong: in fact, she takes too good care of him. She spoils him way too much.

Can you recognize Mees’ background?

Oh no. I grew up with two mothers. It’s about the best thing that could happen to you. Sometimes I can hardly stand to play it. Tell me you love your mother, man, I guess. I often hear from others that, like Mees, I am an annoying child.

Like Maas, do you want advice in this situation?

I can only say that he must do it himself. His mother must let go of him, mentally and physically, or she herself will die. And he has to grow up, and only he can do that.

Susan Radder as Lieke (photo credit: Wessel de Groot)

Susan, as Lieke you also have a lot to do with your mother, Merel in the series. that woman everyone loves to hate – but without her would Eyeballs, Eyeballs not be. What is it like to have a mother like that?

Annoying. I’ve had quite a bit on my plate since the first season. I flirted with anorexia, had a depressive episode. Lieke is a perfectionist, and although it is not said in so many words, it has a lot to do with her mother, who is very focused on her. She presses herself against her, but at the same time can’t get around her. So while she really wants to go to the conservatory, she goes to study medicine anyway, her mother’s wish. But when she is hired, she throws her hat at it. This season she is increasingly going her own way. The clashes with her mother continue, but she cares less about it.

Do you think you learn anything from the character you play?

Susan Radder: I have become aware that it can be difficult for parents to have (young) children. As a child, you actually have no idea that your parents are also people with their own problems.

Thor Braun: The reactions I get to my role have made me realize that we all still think outside the box a lot when we actually find freedom in a character like Chris. The fact that Chris is so open and frank has also made me more confident. For example, by saying I like boys. I like that Chris doesn’t care what people think of him.

There are four families. Which family do you think is the best to grow up in?

Susan Radder: I think with Tim and Dina. Because they are both very free, but they talk well with their children, and the communication between them is also very good.

Since Tim was still with Merel, it didn’t work. He didn’t stand there. He was still too much under her belt.

Thor Braun as Chris (photo credit: Wessel de Groot)

Why is Eyeballs so popular do you think?

Susan Radder: I think because it’s so recognizable and confronting. That one sees oneself in one of the characters or as a family sees oneself in one of the four families.

They are all different and all have their own problems. And I think the combination of drama and comedy is very well balanced. There are very funny scenes in it, but also sad ones.

Maas Bronkhuyzen: First of all because it is incredibly well written. The dialogues are strong. And because parents and children watch it together, on the sofa together. It leads to good conversations, it brings families into contact with each other.

We are on the threshold of the fourth season. As long as possible Eyeballs go ahead you think?

Thor Braun: Super long. At some point, grandfathers and grandmothers die, new children are born, parents become grandparents. It then becomes more and more a series about life. I hope Roos keeps writing it and Will keeps making it and with the same cast. Because it is so special that you know each other and that you connect with what you play and with the series itself. It’s also so fun to watch each other grow. Especially Ciraj Amalal (Max) son of Dina and Jeroen. He was really small in the first season and now he’s a bear of a guy.

Maas Bronkhuyzen: It can go on forever! Children themselves become parents, new children are born. But I don’t know if it’s good for the series. Or for the actors? I don’t look too far into the future.

Susan Radder: I think it would be very nice if the series continues to the next generation and that today’s parents will soon be sitting on the sofa as grandparents.

I don’t know if I’ll ever be in it myself. It has to do with so many things: What jobs I am still offered, how I look at life. And also with what the writers have in store for me. I have to agree with that too. We’ll see. Filming for the next season starts in two months. Oh… isn’t it known yet? Then I didn’t say it, haha.

Eyeballs S04 can be watched weekly from Wednesday 7 September 2022 on NPO 1 and NPO Start

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